00:00
00:00
VictorVonVice
Animation is the illusion of movement. It doesn't matter how you pull it off just as long as you have a way of doing it in order to bring your characters to life.

Myles @VictorVonVice

Age 35, Male

Cartoonist

University of Abertay Dundee

Fife, Scotland

Joined on 4/26/03

Level:
20
Exp Points:
4,079 / 4,440
Exp Rank:
12,416
Vote Power:
6.15 votes
Art Scouts
1
Rank:
Police Sergeant
Global Rank:
8,198
Blams:
648
Saves:
480
B/P Bonus:
12%
Whistle:
Normal
Trophies:
14
Medals:
182
Supporter:
3y 1m 17d
Gear:
1

Attitude Towards Animators!

Posted by VictorVonVice - November 22nd, 2007


I was meant to post this on Newgrounds after when I submitted it on SA two weeks ago but I simply forgot, anyway, regardless that i calmed down a bit, I still feel strong about what I wrote >:(

Theres one thing that I really cant stand and I think I speak for all of my fellow animators on this and that is Writers, Musicians and Voice Actors and their attitude towards us when it comes to making flash.

I like those people, really I do but most of them clearly dont understand animation or have had NO personal experience. It just pisses me off when they bitch and whine at you to get something done as they would probably expect you to pull a Disney Classic out of your ass in a few hours.

Animation is alot more than drawing a picture and making it move, theres a hellovalot more to it than that. Theres a vary amount of frames we would put in each second where it would drive a perfectly sane person loony. theres the detail we would sometimes put in which would commanly not be noticed at all. it takes hours, if not days , if not months to make a good short animation which is why its hard and most animators give up on stuff half way through or just give up altogether

ok, with voice acting, what is there to really do? well, all you need to do is to record your voice and tell you what to say and your done. These people are fuck easy to work with because most of them are friendly and great people with amazing voices. Only annoying thing is that they will be impatient as hell and want you to finish quickly so they can see the character they were voicing in action.

Musicians, I respect to a certain point. theres alot more to it than remixing and bashing a few notes on the FL. Muscians are pretty unpredictable when working with them because making music from scratch takes just as long as making a flash, so sometimes you would finish your flash but the musician wants to do it all again or they would take waaaaaay to long to make a song altogether. hince why its better for the musician to finish his/her piece before the animator can do anything

Writers, I have to say are the worst to work with. they write a script and they expect you to do EVERYTHING from it, like its not a big deal to you. not only that, they will push you and expect you to finish at a certain point which really does annoy the living fuck out of me. in my opinion, its better if an animator can write their own shit or at least have a writer who was an animator. that way, he would understand your position and respect you more.


Comments

I agree with you whole-heartedly. That's why I try to do most of the stuff on my own.

thats why I dont use diologue in anything. there's too many impatient little quims here.

I prefer to do all of it myself, then I get it how I like it and I don't have to put up with faggots. But that's also probably why all my cartoons have poor music, senseless scripts and shoddy voice acting.

I strongly agree with you my good sir. Even though my movies don't contain much animations it's still a pain in the ass and even more so when I do all the voices too, though that's the fun part :)

good points there man, very good points. most of the people i've worked on music collabs with have done nothing, and left me to do it all so they can steal the glory :@ so yeah keep it up man, feel free to look to me for music :)

Amen.

hrmm..intresting, but before I can say anything else..I gotta make a flash thats longer than a few seconds... rofl

damn!! right on my friend do any of this... individuals know how much time and effort we put into a flash, sometimes to make a simple move of the character takes various hours. To make a short five minute flash takes months of sacrifice. Why don't they just.... hush! sit back and be patient we are artists who are exploring this genre were not freaking Walt Disney!!!

I agree on most of it. Although you should always have the music finished first so you know if it will even fit the animation. When I first started animating I was amazed at the amount of effort and skill of some animators.

I could not agree more.
P.s-I'm making an Flash rigth now,my first one,Any Tips?Please?x-x
P.s2-Go on my Profile and Flame me,please.It's too quiet.

MentalMyles I watched you Sheezy Art account and I came across the intro of you Sonic Costume Halloween part 3 to discover that you lost the whole thing...
Man I can't believe this happened, jesus you had improved so much on the animation it was almost a perfect and the voice acting was even better!
The plot looked so awesome not to mention Tails was back again and Sonic mysteriously died for some odd reason.
Please Mental Myles for all your fans out there you have to finish this one day, please it was too awesome to be abandonned :(

I completely agree with you mentalmyles,they don't know how hard it is with flashes sometimes 0_0

OMG i didnt see that you had stopped making a number 3!
i was hoping there was going to be another :( sorry about you stopping it

Also the animation was great so were the voices particulary sonics which sounded real lol

You have all of the best flashes I have ever watched!!!!!I almost watched every one!!!